<![CDATA[Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020]]>Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020

Authored by Councillor Aylin Gökçen (Alkharya)

Preamble

A motion to repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 from the Acquis Communautaire of the European Union.

SECTION I - REPEALS

  • This motion shall repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 in its entirety from the Acquis Communautaire.

SECTION II - REASONING

Dear Colleagues in Europolis,

Today, I am coming forward to finally eliminate the Elected and Accountable Council Act, passed exactly nine months ago, on the 19th of January, 2020. This act, which claims to promote democracy, has made the European Union less united. I am deeply saddened whenever I realize that the seat of Angleter, a country which had, and still has a massive influence on the European Union, has been vacant for almost the entire year. the fact that an act so influential to the way how the European Union, as well as all the member states, function their democracy passed because of four members out of around thirty members is truly disturbing. This act does not represent all member states, and it surely does not represent my nation, Alkharya, in any way.

First things first, I disapprove the way the European Council is portrayed in the Act. The European Union is not a bastion to keep democracy in check. That is not a legislative responsibility, that's judicial, and European Court of Justice holds that responsibility. Secondly, this act is too restrictive and tries to put all democratic systems into one box, even though the election process explained may not be suitable with the functioning democracy of a country. I'll give out examples of my country. It is impossible to become the President of Alkharya without sitting on provincial and regional parliaments. This is to ensure that any person who even comes close to the title of President in this country has extensive experience on how the system actually works. In true Alkharyan fashion, the Councillor of Alkharya would be chosen from our parliament, Kurultay, because a councillor should have some experience on Alkharyan politics, given the fact that they are representing the entire country of Alkharya. It is utterly ridiculous that Alkharya is forced to put anyone with large amounts of money but breadcrumb brain candidates while many veterans of our parliament are let down. This act does nothing but disrespects those who have spent years just to get somewhere better. Third, this Act does not allow the member states to put term limits, which means that I can just stay in this seat as many terms as I want, even though every seat in Alkharya has a maximum limit of three terms of two years. This Act goes directly against the values of Alkharyan democracy which has been here on my homeland for almost one and a half-century, and is a direct threat to it.

My fourth and final point is that councillors are not, and must not be, a separate entity from the government of the member state they are representing. A councillor here in the European Council is responsible for representing an entire country, and that includes the government itself. True representation of the government is not possible if the EU has laws like the Elected and Accountable Council Act which forces the government to function in a certain way. Member states shall not be interrupted when choosing their Councillors. If a country wants to elect their councillors via parliament or make it so that it's picked by the head of state, or have a nationwide election to choose their councillors, they should be free to do so. Again, the European Council is not responsible to keep the Union democratic, and it shouldn't take steps like this that may mess with other governments. A fine line must be drawn between the governance of the member states and the governance of the European Union, and I am confident that member states are intelligent enough to choose a councillor that represents their country as a whole, without the interruption from the European Union.

Thank you for listening to my opinions and concerns. Take care,

Aylin Gökçen
Councillor of Alkharya

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/topic/696/repeal-the-elected-and-accountable-council-act-2020RSS for NodeSat, 04 Apr 2026 18:21:33 GMTMon, 19 Oct 2020 06:57:54 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Fri, 30 Oct 2020 07:15:56 GMT]]>With 6 votes for and 8 votes against, this repeal has been REJECTED.

I thank the Councillors from Leagio, the United Duchies, Nofoaga, Montenbourg, Spain, Ruthund and Icholasen for standing up for democratic values and for allowing the people of the member states to choose their representatives, and to keep both the European Council and the European Union democratically legitimate. This is a great triumph against those who seek to make the European Union unaccountable to the people of Europe, and who wish to make Europolis a dark cave for unelected shadow bureaucrats.

Edward Firoux
Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7196http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7196Fri, 30 Oct 2020 07:15:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Wed, 28 Oct 2020 06:05:12 GMT]]>On behalf of the Kingdom of Reitzmag, I ABSTAIN from voting on this repeal.

Friedrich van Allen
Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7160http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7160Wed, 28 Oct 2020 06:05:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Wed, 28 Oct 2020 00:10:14 GMT]]>On behalf of the Queen Anastasia and Icholasen, I vote AGAINST this repeal.

Duchess Councillor Poppy Carlton-Romanov II Attorney-at-Law

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7157http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7157Wed, 28 Oct 2020 00:10:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Tue, 27 Oct 2020 23:44:19 GMT]]>On behalf of the Union of Duxburian Dominions, I vote FOR the repeal.

Wesley Greene
Councillor of the Duxburian Union

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7153http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7153Tue, 27 Oct 2020 23:44:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Tue, 27 Oct 2020 21:50:20 GMT]]>On behalf of the Realm of Great Ruthund, I vote AGAINST this repeal.

Vintufrida Luzrogizen
Acting EU Councillor, Ruthund

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7146http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7146Tue, 27 Oct 2020 21:50:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Tue, 27 Oct 2020 21:46:56 GMT]]>((OOC: I initially left as to maintain my grades, which were high then. Abandoning RP, however, has only caused my writing to start declining in quality. At the same time, I've started feeling more stress despite having less work than there was at, say, the height of the Eastern Haane RP in September (possibly because RP was a source of stress relief). This stress has also led to declines in both organization and time management. As a result, I don't see any reason to continue with this hiatus. I 'm really sorry for this, and hope that it has not caused any issues.))

On behalf of the Federal Republic of Austria, I vote FOR this repeal.

Eugen Freund
Councillor for the Federal Republic of Austria

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7145http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7145Tue, 27 Oct 2020 21:46:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Tue, 27 Oct 2020 19:21:02 GMT]]>On behalf of the Kingdom of Pravoslaviya, I vote FOR this repeal.

Cllr Tupac Shakur

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7135http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7135Tue, 27 Oct 2020 19:21:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Tue, 27 Oct 2020 19:17:53 GMT]]>The Empire of Inimicus votes FOR this repeal.

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7133http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7133Tue, 27 Oct 2020 19:17:53 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Tue, 27 Oct 2020 18:24:00 GMT]]>On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote AGAINST this repeal.

Donald D. Tusk
Councillor for Spain

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7131http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7131Tue, 27 Oct 2020 18:24:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:49:04 GMT]]>On behalf of the Kingdom of Montenbourg, I vote AGAINST this repeal.

Emma Granger
Councillor for Montenbourg

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7129http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7129Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:49:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:04:58 GMT]]>On behalf of the Kingdom of Fremet, I vote FOR this repeal.

Charles Michel
Councilor for the Kingdom of Fremet

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7127http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7127Tue, 27 Oct 2020 17:04:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Tue, 27 Oct 2020 08:12:23 GMT]]>On behalf of the Republic of Nofoaga, I vote AGAINST this repeal.

Mrs. Paul-Gabrielle Muzhare
EU Councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7121http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7121Tue, 27 Oct 2020 08:12:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Tue, 27 Oct 2020 06:04:38 GMT]]>On behalf of Alkharya, I vote FOR this repeal.

Aylin Gökçen
Councillor of Alkharya

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7115http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7115Tue, 27 Oct 2020 06:04:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Tue, 27 Oct 2020 05:34:54 GMT]]>On behalf of the United Duchies, I vote AGAINST this repeal.
Tobias Johnson Farage

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7112http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7112Tue, 27 Oct 2020 05:34:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Tue, 27 Oct 2020 05:30:49 GMT]]>On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote AGAINSTt this repeal.

Francis Plessis
EU Councilor for Leagio

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7110http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7110Tue, 27 Oct 2020 05:30:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Tue, 27 Oct 2020 05:25:14 GMT]]>Final voting begins NOW and will last until 05:45 GMT on October 30th, 2020.

On behalf of the Most Blessed State of Inquista, I vote AGAINST this repeal.

Edward Firoux
Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7107http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7107Tue, 27 Oct 2020 05:25:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Sat, 24 Oct 2020 07:41:24 GMT]]>I don't think it would be within proper decorum of the Council to have an ex-councillor debate the active Speaker, so I will answer on Master Devoy's behalf. Any feedback or criticism for what he's said should be directed to me.

Speaker Firoux, I don't think Master Devoy claimed to have written the entire Constitution or intended to marginalize other Councillors' contributions to the document. If you were listening, he was referring to very specific parts. That's also why I introduced him as "an" author and not "the" author.

We continue to have constitutional debates with you, because the Constitution doesn't really support the way you're using it to elevate democracy to such a pedestal. Yes, I acknowledge that it's very important, but the level you want it is just not required. "Promoting democracy" is part of the Preample...that's not a judiciable part of the document. It's just a mission statement, you can't violate a Preample. The Right to Democratic Governence in the UDoHR is enforceable by a court of law and the part to examine. Even the powerful first and third clauses appear to be aimed at national governments and not really at councillors.

We also disagree on the validity of representation as democratic. You seem to think anything short of a full election isn't democratic. I see appointed representatives as an extension of trust that voters put into the government representatives they did elect. They still have democratic legitimacy, flowing through the previous level of representation. If the people aren't happy with who their government appoints to do whatever, they can vote that government out.

I agree with you that a member-state is a country and that the people comprise a country. But, the government of that country is the only entity that can represent it internationally. The people just aren't the government, unless it's one massive direct democracy with no representatives at all, which describes no current member-state. The government is its own separate entity and it alone has the power to act on behalf of the entire country. Thus, a councillor must represent it, as stated by the EU Constitution.

Unfortunately, I don't think we'll be able to see eye to eye on these issues. The way you extrapolate meaning from things that weren't said, and the loose way you use the European Constitution to grant legitimacy to your ideological goals are highly concerning. You aren't listening or reading. Your way or the highway helped cost us Angleter, who is next? Master Devoy's way or the highway cost several member-states, as well. Tyranny by majority in the name of whatever goals rips the EU apart.

At the end of the day, there is a sizeable contingent of councillors and member-states who simply want to retain the freedom to choose how they are represented in the Council. They want to follow the Constitution as written rather than having it warped to mean whatever you want it to. This act has got to go.

Wesley Greene
Councillor of the Duxburian Union

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7051http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7051Sat, 24 Oct 2020 07:41:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Fri, 23 Oct 2020 06:11:52 GMT]]>Mr. Gökçen, I am here as a representative of my country, and I in fact gave those statements to tell Coun. Firoux of such misconduct he had done in which has been a violation of my power on democracy and my country's sovereignty. You see, Coun. Firoux here is a good speaker but not a good councilor. I am not angry, instead I am questioning your motives for such. Whether you all my colleagues do care or not, this matter has something to do with us Councilors and our exercise of duty and office and also the way we are elected. I have already stated my suggestion on this matter and I do not side with any of the pro-EACA or anti-EACA. What I just wish is harmony in which the ideas of both the sides are mixed to create an idea much agreeable to all. Hence, what I suggested is that the highest decision making body will decide on how their Councilors will be chosen. However, I also suggested that the method must at least have some level of democracy. An example of which is appointment from the cabinet of the government which had been voted by all the ministries and departments.

Friedrich van Allen
Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7025http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7025Fri, 23 Oct 2020 06:11:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Fri, 23 Oct 2020 06:01:45 GMT]]>Councillor Van Allen, please, for the love of whatever entity you believe in, shut the hell up. I could not care less about your conflicts with Inquista, or with any other country for that matter, ESPECIALLY during this time when the topic is completely different than whatever you're trying to rail it to. Stop it. This is your last warning. The European Council not a place to cry and whine about your incompetence.

As for Councillor Farage Johnsen, not only your argument does not make any sense, you're putting the weight of undemocratic and unfunctional governments onto other governments by restricting their freedom of choice, just like Councillor Tusk and Councillor Firoux. To be frank, I don't believe that European Union is a bastion of democracy. If it really were, it would prohibit literal dictatorships from ever stepping foot on Europolis. Instead, it puts bills like the EACA to make it seem like a democratic bastion to silence the Eurosceptics and anti-EU nutjobs. Let's not fool ourselves with this hypocritical delusion that the EU does a great job at upholding democracy, we've had quite a lot of dictatorships come and go. And don't get it twisted, I always loved the idea of Alkharya being on an union with other countries and making greater relationships, but not like this. Never like this.

Like Acwellan Devoy said, these seats are for member states. A councillor is the connection between a member state and the rest of European Union. And there is no other entity that can choose its councillor better than the member state itself.

Aylin Gökçen
Councillor of Alkharya

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7024http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7024Fri, 23 Oct 2020 06:01:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Fri, 23 Oct 2020 12:43:24 GMT]]>I see the debate has turned up to be a debate between Councillor van Allen and the Speaker, because he has been mentioned by the Reitzmic Councillor about the Home Affairs of Inquista and the Diplomatic action of Reitzmag with Inquista. Mr. van Allen, do you think we care about if you angry about a Treaty being refused by the Inquistan College of Bishops? I don't care about it, let's focus onto the main matter now please. That's why I second the Speaker's proposal to end the constant derailing of the topics every day.

Donald D. Tusk
Councillor for Spain

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7018http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7018Fri, 23 Oct 2020 12:43:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Thu, 22 Oct 2020 20:56:05 GMT]]>Quite frankly we oppose this attempt to undermine democracy in the EU. There certainly is an argument to be had about numbers and proportionality and whether representation should be same for each nation or proportional to population. There is also argument over whether any particular election system should be favoured but just because it is not perfect then we do not need to throw the baby out with the bathwater so to speak. Just now we are discussing an increase in councillors per nation to make it more representitive, not necessarily a perfect deal but progress towards a more democratic and representative council but the answer is always more democracy not less , we should not let potentially unelected heads of state decide who sits here or a government elected on less than 50% of the population. The Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 protects the role by keeping it democratic and decided for by the people not by an rich out of touch elite or metropolitan bubble.

Tobias Farage Johnson

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7017http://165.22.228.80:80/post/7017Thu, 22 Oct 2020 20:56:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Thu, 22 Oct 2020 08:34:23 GMT]]>Debate will be extened by 48 hours until 20:45 GMT on October 24th, 2020.

Edward Firoux
Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/6994http://165.22.228.80:80/post/6994Thu, 22 Oct 2020 08:34:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Thu, 22 Oct 2020 08:31:19 GMT]]>I would like to request a debate extension as it's clear there's still much to be said on this subject.

Wesley Greene
Councillor of the Duxburian Union

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/6992http://165.22.228.80:80/post/6992Thu, 22 Oct 2020 08:31:19 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Repeal the Elected and Accountable Council Act 2020 on Thu, 22 Oct 2020 04:38:52 GMT]]>Councillor Van Allen, while I am the Councillor for Inquista, I am also a sitting and elected member of the College of Bishops, and I am also the Chief Bishop Secretary of the Inqusitan Orthodox Church, second only to the Archbishop herself. It is quite literally my job and duty of to vote upon all agreements and legislation in the College of Bishops, and it is my job to scrutinize those agreements. The agreement which you mentioned was defeated in a overwhelming majority vote of 13 to 217. So if you have gripes with that, you have 216 more bishops you can send angry e-mails to.

Councillor, I'd really like for us to get through one legislative session without you sidetracking or derailing the entire conversation to complain about the self-inflicted injuries of your country's foreign policy. #VictimMode

Councillor Shakur, your first comment insinuates that only the government gets to choose who makes up government, but this is false. The people, at least in a democracy, choose their government. and they give legitimacy to this government by selecting them. In a democracy, legitimacy ultimately lies in the hands of the people. As to your other point, yes, members of government can aim to push independent set of policies from one another. In our quagmire of a European Union, we see this happen all the time. I certainly don't agree that each and every public office is a member of government, and I understand the difference between 'the government' and holding public office. Not every holder of public office is elected to represent the entire member state. A backbencher MP, for instance, obviously cannot go on the world stage and proclaim themselves a representative of the government. In fact, most MPs probably can't do that, period. However, a Councillor is a specific public office with the duty and power invested into it to represent the member state. That's the office and the job description. While it might clash with other offices that represent the government, there's nothing that says the two have to be united.

Edward Firoux
Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

]]>http://165.22.228.80:80/post/6977http://165.22.228.80:80/post/6977Thu, 22 Oct 2020 04:38:52 GMT